{"id":1673,"date":"2011-07-18T19:15:29","date_gmt":"2011-07-18T23:15:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/?p=1673"},"modified":"2011-07-18T19:23:28","modified_gmt":"2011-07-18T23:23:28","slug":"richard-nixons-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/?p=1673","title":{"rendered":"“Richard Nixon’s war”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Thom Hartmann is a smart guy – more so than most of the people on liberal talk radio.<\/p>\n

But he totally blew his history today, to the point he was flooded by his own listeners telling him he was completely wrong. \u00a0 Tom attributed the majority of the deaths in the Vietnam War to Richard Nixon. \u00a0 As one who had a lot at stake (I turned 18 in 1973), I’m very familiar with what Nixon did to try to win the war the first year (bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail, bombing Hanoi (he missed bombing the POW camp with John McCain), and mining the harbor in Haiphong to prevent Russian resupply ships. \u00a0 At each step, the Democrats and the Media blocked his path. \u00a0 \u00a0So he told the South Vietnamese they were going to have to defend their own country and we were going to leave. \u00a0(Iraq? \u00a0Afghanistan?)<\/p>\n

Here are the combat deaths in Vietnam by year:<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\t\n\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t
Year<\/th>Combat Deaths<\/th>President<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
1956-1960<\/td>9<\/td>Eisenhower (R)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1961<\/td>16<\/td>John F. Kennedy (D)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1962<\/td>52<\/td>John F Kennedy (D)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1963<\/td>118<\/td>Kennedy Jan 1st-Nov 22
\r\nJohnson Nov 22-Dec 31<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1964<\/td>206<\/td>Lyndon B Johnson (D)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1965<\/td>1,863<\/td>LBJ<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1966<\/td>6,143<\/td>LBJ<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1967<\/td>11,153<\/td>LBJ<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1968<\/td>16,592<\/td>LBJ<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1969<\/td>11,616<\/td>LBJ Jan 1- Jan 20
\r\nRichard Nixon (R) Jan 20-Dec 31<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1970<\/td>6,081<\/td>Nixon<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1971<\/td>2,357<\/td>Nixon<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1972<\/td>641<\/td>Nixon<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1973<\/td>168<\/td>Nixon<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1974<\/td>178<\/td>Nixon Jan 1-Aug 9
\r\nGerald Ford Aug 9-Dec 31<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1975<\/td>161<\/td>Ford
\r\nSaigon falls Apr 1975<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Source<\/a><\/td><\/td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n

LBJ was responsible for almost 2\/3 of the deaths of the war.<\/p>\n

When his own listeners flooded him with twitter posts, etc… pointing out the error, he came on the air and admitted he was wrong – then mumbled some nonsense about “But Nixon forced him to do it”.<\/p>\n

LBJ was eligible to run for President in 1968 (because JFK was past the midway point of his term, LBJ from 63-64 didn’t count toward the two term limit) – but LBJ was disgusted with himself and how he let McNamara and the military lie to him and trick him into escalating the war then try to convince him we were winning the war any day now. \u00a0 LBJ announced he would not seek reelection on April 1, 1968. \u00a0[Remember when campaigns didn’t start 2 years ahead of the election?].<\/p>\n

http:\/\/articles.latimes.com\/2008\/mar\/30\/opinion\/op-jones30<\/a><\/p>\n

<\/a> Richard Nixon did not hold any political office while he was running. \u00a0 He didn’t secure the nomination for certain until the convention in August 1968 – some guy named Ronald Reagan was also hoping to run for President. \u00a0 The Republicans controlled neither house of Congress. \u00a0 It’s a puzzle to me how Nixon “forced” LBJ to do anything.<\/p>\n

As Thom loves to say, you’re entitled to your opinions, but not your own facts. \u00a0 By next week, Thom will be back to saying “Nixon’s war”. \u00a0 It’s just washed too deeply into his brain.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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