

{"id":2065,"date":"2011-08-09T00:15:50","date_gmt":"2011-08-09T05:15:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/?p=2065"},"modified":"2011-11-26T12:30:15","modified_gmt":"2011-11-26T17:30:15","slug":"lets-bomb-the-crap-out-of-the-taliban","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/?p=2065","title":{"rendered":"Let&#8217;s bomb the crap out of the Taliban!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Several of the &#8220;right wing&#8221; talk show hosts went down this path today &#8211; the SEAL helicopter being shot down is proof that withdrawing our forces isn&#8217;t going to work, and we need to bomb the crap out of Afghanistan and crush them.<\/p>\n<p>A couple weeks ago, I made that point &#8211; sort of.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The difference is I said that&#8217;s what we should have done 10 years ago.\u00a0\u00a0 In the year following 9\/11, most of the world would have looked the other way at pretty much anything we did to Afghanistan.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s not 2002 &#8211; a lot has changed since then:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; We facilitated installing\u00a0a corrupt government in Afghanistan, that has threatened us with non-cooperation if we try to do anything aggressive<br \/>\n&#8211; Russia sent the tanks into Georgia and toppled the government that was letting us use their air bases<br \/>\n&#8211; We chewed up a large amount of our military equipment and troops launching a war in Iraq<br \/>\n&#8211; We know know (or admit) that Pakistan was never our ally is the force behind the Taliban<br \/>\n&#8211;\u00a0 The President of the United States doesn&#8217;t have a clue<\/p>\n<p>If you want to &#8220;Bomb the Taliban&#8221;, those bombs have to come from somewhere.\u00a0\u00a0 Logistics are a huge problem in Afghanistan.\u00a0\u00a0 NATO has been trying to restore the rail link from the North, but it&#8217;s politically dicey &#8211; the countries the trains would have to go through are not particularly friendly and there is the problem of which gauge of railroad the country will have &#8211; European, Russian or Pakistan<\/p>\n<p>Afghanistan is landlocked.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The only substantial road into the country from the ocean goes through Pakistan.\u00a0\u00a0 If they don&#8217;t let us use their point and their roads, that&#8217;s not a way to get &#8220;bombs&#8221; to Afghanistan.<\/p>\n<p>Iran could be a way to get supplies to Afghanistan, but we aren&#8217;t on very good terms with them.<\/p>\n<p>Afghanistan is now a NATO operation, not a US Operation.\u00a0\u00a0 Most of NATO is pulling out their operations.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/afghanregion.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2066\" title=\"Afghanistan region\" src=\"http:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/afghanregion.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"565\" srcset=\"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/afghanregion.png 600w, https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/afghanregion-300x282.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A map is worth a 1000 words.\u00a0\u00a0 Let&#8217;s look at the options:<br \/>\n&#8211; the country is roughly 600&#215;400 miles in size.\u00a0 It has very few roads and no useful railroads.<br \/>\n&#8211; Iran shares a long border and has access to the Arabian Sea \/ Pacific Ocean.\u00a0\u00a0 They are not particularly our friends.\u00a0 Want to start another war to topple Iran?\u00a0 (I&#8217;m hearing rumblings we are planning to do just that)<br \/>\n&#8211; Pakistan &#8211; has bottled up most of our supplies in port, and attacked trucks transporting fuel and other supplies through the Khyber Pass<br \/>\n&#8211; The mountain area to the NE of Kabul is the disputed Kashmir region, a source of constant friction between Pakistan and India, and China would kind of like them too.<br \/>\n&#8211; The water area to the West of Turkmenistan is the Caspian Sea &#8211; it&#8217;s an inland sea with no connection to the ocean.\u00a0\u00a0 You aren&#8217;t going to get an aircraft carrier there<br \/>\n&#8211; Tajikistan &#8211; Tajik is an ethnic group which have a significant presence in Northern Afghanistan.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They wouldn&#8217;t object to the country being split up and getting that part of Afghanistan, which was an artificial creation of the European powers to begin with<br \/>\n&#8211; Uzbekistan &#8211; the Uzbeks are another distinct ethnic group.\u00a0\u00a0 Uzbekistan is also landlocked &#8211; they have no access to anywhere unless you transit through Kazahkstan and Russia.\u00a0\u00a0 If Russia isn&#8217;t on board, this is a &#8220;no go&#8221; option.\u00a0\u00a0 For now, Russia is allowing &#8220;non-lethal&#8221; cargo to come in through Latvia and crossing Russia via rail &#8211; a trip over the <a href=\"http:\/\/csis.org\/program\/northern-distribution-network-ndn\">Northern Distribution Network <\/a>that takes a couple weeks and has very limited capacity<br \/>\n&#8211; Turkmenistan &#8211; they have access to the Caspian sea, but that doesn&#8217;t go anywhere useful<\/p>\n<p>So unless Iran or Pakistan is helping us, everything pretty much is going to have to be flown in on cargo planes, including fuel &#8211; but who is going to let you cross their air space?\u00a0\u00a0 Iran?\u00a0 Pakistan?\u00a0 China?\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 From Baghdad to Kabul is about 1500 miles IF you flew in a straight line over Iran.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.isn.ethz.ch\/isn\/Current-Affairs\/Security-Watch-Archive\/Detail\/?lng=en&amp;id=116255\">Additional reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Several of the &#8220;right wing&#8221; talk show hosts went down this path today &#8211; the SEAL helicopter being shot down is proof that withdrawing our forces isn&#8217;t going to work, and we need to bomb the crap out of Afghanistan &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/?p=2065\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2065","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-war-and-not-war"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2065","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2065"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2065\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2071,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2065\/revisions\/2071"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2065"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2065"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/streamingradioguide.com\/startingover\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2065"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}