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1. Art Stone says:

   February 20, 2010 at 9:16 pm

   If Hillary Clinton had won, do you think there would be no Tea Party movement?

   My memory is this thing started on the floor ot the Chicago futures exchange with Rick Santelli on CNBC

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA

   It’s becoming more clear over the weekend that the “Tea Party” movement is being driven by Ron Paul, Alex Jones and 9/11 Truthers (or at least they think they are running it). Ron Paul’s speech at CPAC is the one that generated an overflow crowd. Look for Beck to further differentiate “Tea Party” from the 9/12 movement that he created.
   • Art Stone says:

     February 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm

     See my later post above…. I don’t know if Santelli knew about Ron Paul’s Tea Party movement (in February 2009), but Paul clearly had his operation in place during the 2008 Republican Primary. After the inital outburst by Santelli, there never really was any follow through by him.
   • jmyrlefuller says:

     February 21, 2010 at 8:01 am

     If Hillary Clinton were President, and she proposed the same things Obama is, then heck yes, I’d think there would be a tea party movement. And I’d think that you’d see the same things we see today, except instead of the race card, the liberals would be crying sexism.
   • mitchellc says:

     February 21, 2010 at 9:51 pm

     I think you’re incorrect about the origin of the Tea Party movement.

     First, I do think people are mistaken when they say that the idea for the Tea Party was originally inspired by Santelli’s rant in Feb 2009.

     I recall that ideas for Tea Party protests were in the embryonic stage even before the Nov 2008 election, and the idea was being thrown around by a few people on Free Republic – a decidedly Ron Paul-unfriendly website at times, by the way – and other mainstream forums, when the first bailout was being passed in Sep/Oct 08.

     Perhaps I’m wrong in my recollection of this, but I don’t think I am. What I’m more certain of is that ideas for a Tea Party, or Tea Parties, were being kicked around more by the new year of 09 – with the idea already of it/them taking place on April 15 – and that Santelli didn’t spontaneously call for a Tea Party, but he had in fact gotten the idea from grassroots people who were voicing support for him over his rants as they were beginning… leading up to “the rant” where Santelli voiced support for the April 15 Tea Party.

     But the media didn’t know about the background to Santelli’s rant, and so reported, and most people have accepted since, the spontaneity of the Tea Party idea in Santelli’s rant.

     Two, the Tea Party is neither originally or generally a part of the Ron Paul movement, nor does it have anything inherently to do with trutherism.

     The Tea Party movement really is as spontaneous a thing you’ll ever see in politics, I think. As the idea was thrown out by Santelli to the grassroots at large, individuals in the cities all over ran with it and ran the events on their own, with groups like FreedomWorks fanning the flames and helping out (but never, to my knowledge, actually running the events).

     Of the Tea Parties in NC and SC, only *one* that I’m aware of may have had a Paulite bent, and that’s in the ultra-leftist college city of Asheville where there aren’t enough mainstream conservatives to fill a room.

     Other than that, every single major Tea Party in the area was decidedly in the mainstream of conservatism. They were individual events run by people who would probably never support Ron Paul in a presidential primary…
     • Art Stone says:

       February 22, 2010 at 2:18 am

       I have already stipulated much of what you say
       http://streamingradioguide.com/radiochat/?p=2129

       My original post said I “had the impression” that Santelli was where the Tea Party idea started…. Not having followed Ron Paul, I was unaware (or forgot) about his involvement in 2007…. or maybe they are completely different groups who both need a new name…..

       People who are in the politics business – now that the Tea Party movement looks threatening to the establishment – are mostly saying the same thing – that if the Tea Party doesn’t define boundaries around what they stand for and believe that their adversaries will.

       Then the Fox News link pointing out that Ron Paul is (perhaps) being forced out of the Tea Party movement. It’s a bit early to be having “purges”, but it also may be necessary. At a minimum, Paul may want to make clearer just how much of the “truther” agenda he supports and what parts of it are a crock of manure…. and then deal with the people with the extreme postiions like the US military would send a missile into the Pentagon to kill its own leaders….

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