Well, isn’t this curious :)
The newly sworn in Democratic Governor of Hawaii Neil Abercrombie started out his job wanting to get the “silly” birther issue behind him so it isn’t dogging him for the next four years.
It would appear that when HE went to the archives to find the long form birth certificate, he was not able to find one. All he found was a “notation”, which would be consistent with a birth registration of a person who was born elsewhere. That registration would have also triggered the routine publication of the announcements published in the local papers.
Will -anything- rise to the level that the “legitimate” press will ask a few basic questions to confirm that Barack Obama’s entire life history isn’t actually a fabrication? Seems unlikely.
As I understand it, now that Republicans control the House, they also control the investigative power of that body. It would seem that they must investigate the matter. If it turned out that the current POTUS was found to be illegitimate due to a lack of constitutional qualification, would that invalidate any legislation he signed into law? I assume impeachment would not come into play if his election were invalidated. Would that mean that in order for a law to be confirmed again by his replacement during a new fiscal year it would need to be again passed by the currently elected congress? Constitutional crisis anyone?
Courts are not going to overturn laws even in the most optimistic scenario. Once it is announced in the Federal Register, it is the law. The laws were written by Congress, not the President. This is no more likely than Major League Baseball throwing out the World Series results for the Cincinnati Reds because Pete Rose was kicked out of baseball several years later.
The best that birthers might be able to do is block him from the 2012 election. What are you then going to do with the reaction of the 38 million citizens who self identify as “African” Americans, a large swath if whom work in the Federal Government?
It is the dozens and dozens of little things (I think of Coloumbo when he was headed out of a room, cigar in hand, and he would turn and say, “You know, Mr. Stone, there is just one thing bothering me about…”. It’s the same sort of trepidation with this issue, or any credential prior to US Senate with O’Bama, as well as other major stories of my life time. When a member of the elite turns to me and says, “The debate is over, (this issue) is settled, the time is now for action” I know in my heart I’m screwed, again.
Well, the Governor not being able to find the certificate is one thing. The other things to wonder about is Not one person or student even rememberd BHO when he was ‘supposedly’ a student studying law, at Columbia. Why has his law licence be inactavited since 2002 ? and Michelle’s licence inactivated by Court order. Why does he use a Social Security number issued in Connecticut, where he never reported to have lived ? There are more important questions other than where he was born, and why are all his records sealed ?
I understand Michelle voluntarily gave up her license to practice law….to AVOID PROSECUTION! So now instead of a Lady Bird for FLOTUS, we have Free Bird! I don’t know about Barry, though…he either didn’t use it or didn’t pay his dues, or both! Something evidently slipped through the cracks, which seems to be the story of Barry’s life! Just when you think you’ve got something, some little piece of info….it slips through the cracks!
Hi :) You apparently have this web site confused with Free Republic.
Next time, try visiting Snopes before passing along bogus internet rumors as facts.
Hi back at ya ;) I’ve never been to Free Republic and I NEVER use Snopes as a reference. The information on licenses for the Obamas comes partially from a 2009 WND article and partially from info not attainable via internet, so I’ll stick with the WND info.
Both voluntarily gave up their licenses to practice, as well as associate positions/offerings, to join community organizations. Thus, they didn’t have to continue with legal education (mandatory CLE courses throughout the year) and didn’t have to pay dues, license registrations/renewals, etc. These fees and mandates are paid for by the law firms, but not community organizations, so one could “surmise” the Obamas became “inactive” to avoid paying fees and going to CLE seminars (usu. 10 hrs/year, including not less than 2.0 hrs in ethics). If they hadn’t given up their licenses and not paid their dues/fees and fulfilled CLE mandates, both would have been sanctioned.
To lawyers, being sanctioned by the courts is as close as it gets to being “prosecuted”, and just as damaging. To give up their licenses to avoid paying fees and taking courses could be comparable to say, giving up a governorship to avoid frivolous lawsuits. ;-)
Usually I avoid using legal terms because many people aren’t familiar enough with the terminology to make the distinction. But in no way did I deliberately try to pass off “bogus internet rumors as facts.”
Perhaps now the term “Free Bird” makes more sense, eh?
Snopes is your friend.
There is a huge difference between “was sanctioned” and “could have been sanctioned if some theoretical fact not in evidence might have happened in the future based on no evidence and no sources just because we hope it is true”
Maybe Obama’s SSN is from CT because that’s where he was born? I haven’t heard anyone mention this. There’s a word for this that escapes me, but it’s how the left rewrites history, replacing how things actually were vice replacing today’s standards with yesterday’s history. Then again, perhaps everyone’s a spring chicken and I’m one of the few oldies left who remembers what life really was like before MLK and civil rights!!
For sure, back in the ’60’s if a woman got pregnant, she was sent to her “aunt’s farm” up north! That, or a home for unwed mothers out of state! Now if the unwed mother was a white minor having an adult black man’s child, aside from the fact he’d probably be lynched if caught, the unwed mother “disappeared”. Rarely, if ever, did the young mother keep her child!
It’s no wonder there are no records of Obama’s birth other than the information his mother gave to the office of vital statistics to register Obama’s birth!
But check the records…if you can find them. There are no marriage records. There is no record of this “couple” living together. And immediately following Obama’s birth, Barry Sr. left Hawaii for Harvard and Stanley enrolled in college in Washington state.
Racism ran rampant in the ’60’s, and not just in the USA. You can still travel to islands in both oceans and find that the most racist of all are the minorities/islanders! Soetoro may have “adopted” Barry, Jr., but I think the racist undercurrents were probably so bad that it was either the kid or Soetoro, and Stanley chose Soetoro and sent Barry to live with his grandparents.
JMHO…but no one seems to be considering what life truly was like prior to civil rights legislation.
This sort of thing, a deed done and become officially part of the public mortar that somewhat holds us all together, reminds me of why so many treasonous s.o.b’s get away with harming their own country. Ovid, I believe it was, said, “Treason doth never prosper: what is the reason? Why, if treason doth prosper, none dare call it treason.” The Cult of “O” could produce and wave about the long-form KENYAN (or is that Keynesian?) birth certificate at this point and he who’s godly emanations revived the moribund Gabrielle Giffords would stride blithely back to his Potomac Pad unscathed. The thing about laws, be it sanitation, trash burning, speed limits, gun “control,” or public office qualification criteria, is that without will and active enforcement, they mean nothing, nada, zilch, zip, zero. Some animals, you see, are more equal than others.
Birth certificate – Why can’t we see it?
Law degree – Why is it inactive? (And who REALLY cares about Michelle’s?)
I understand the laws will probably never be repealed or even affected. I understand it will be next to impossible to keep him off the ticket, if you even would want to.
I just want the world to see one of the most successful liars on the planet for what he is. He lied to the American public about his transparency; he lied to them about taxes; he lied to them about too many things to list here. Personally, after he is exposed to all for what he is, I say let the Dems keep him on their ticket. I think he has already lost the great “Undecided, Moderate” vote based on what has already surfaced.
If he is completely exposed I believe the American Public will know what to do.