Daylight Saving Time

Riddle me this

Since Daylight Saving Time is in effect during the summer when days are long, how does DST prevent kids having to go to school in the dark and saving energy during the winter?

This weekend is the end of DST, something Jake Hartford would be reminding you about if he was still among the living.

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24 Responses to Daylight Saving Time

  1. We don’t really have farmers anymore, so it seems unnecessary…but once the government puts something in place they almost never take it back. It just seems like a control thing now…the people in Washington telling us what time it is, in defiance of the Earth’s natural rotation.

    • CC1s121LrBGT says:

      You mean we don’t need to adjust the nation’s clocks so that little Sally can get to school on time after milking Elsie each morning?

      • Art Stone says:

        I’ll take one more try. DST applies only during the summer. It just means the sun comes up in June at 5:30 AM instead of 4:30 AM. It has no effect at all during the winter and Sally getting on the school bus in December.

        One could make the case that DST should be in effect all year (essentially changing the UTC offset by an hour.

        I’m pretty sure part of the thinking is due to the elliptical nature of the orbit – that when the days get longer/shorter the changes aren’t symmetrical.

        • CC1s121LrBGT says:

          “DST applies only during the summer.” DST in the USA starts in late winter, covers the entire spring and summer and ends in mid autumn.

          I am not sure what you mean about the changes not being symmetrical. The new seasons start on the 21/22 of March, June, September and December, depending on your time zone and where you are with respect to the leap years.

          There is some asymmetrical nature regarding the time of day, but that is based on your position with respect to the equator and poles.

          BTW- Now that we in the USA are all back on ST, does that mean that we get to see schedules for Arizonan and Hawaiian radio station in SRG?

  2. Parrott says:

    why do we need DST ? Less kids going to public schools. More ‘ home-schoolers’ these days. Parent take their kids to private schools and a lot of parents take their kids to public schools now. Not as many Kids waiting to catch a bus on the cold pre-dawn mornings anymore. Muslims are not sending their kids to public schools
    (have to segregate them girls out you know, they can’t have a education) preferring to send to the boys to Mosque-IED-EBT training academy’s. I don’t think most muslims like scholastic football teams, right? Don’t they like the ‘catch the dead goat/clinton activity game’ or something like that ?
    How does the NEA /teacher Union have as much clout these days as they do to force new schools built to the tune of a 70-85 million dollar average? Must communities cannot sustain such a tax burden, yet there it is? But its ‘for the children’. LOL
    Oh yeah I forgot they can get a 0% bond floated and make payments on the cheap, until interest rates go up.
    DST, NEA, EBT, IED’s, TSA, all can go to hell.

    • Art Stone says:

      In 1970, I went to one of those brand new mega high schools – it turns out Dennis Miller and I attended that opening year – he is a year ahead of me. The school had a planetarium (state required either that or a telescope), language labs, a huge state of the art auditorium, Olympic size swimming pool, huge cafeteria where they had everything including the ability to bake bread. It was the worst year of my life.

      What dawned on me only recently was a huge part of why three smaller school systems were combined and this school was built was so the school would have enough students to field a competitive high school football team. America loves Sports.

  3. briand75 says:

    DST sucks – period. It helps no one that I am aware of and simply destroys a week or two worth of sleep trying to adapt.

  4. Nidster says:

    Yeah, the whole DST thing is sorta weird, as is the fact the Earth wobbles on its axis. Then consider how the Moon is in a nearly perfect circular orbit, only one side is visible from Earth, and it perfectly obscures the sun during an eclipse. There must be a hundred or more weird facts about the Moon and why it should not be where it is. The Moon is like a UFO, you can view it but no one can offer a compelling argument regarding why it appears to defy the laws of physics.

    • Art Stone says:

      This was a question I used to have as well. Eventually I found that the term for this is a “tidally locked” moon. Some, but not all, moons have this behavior. In a few billion years, the Earth’s rotation will match the moon’s orbit and the moon will appear to always be in the same location, and not visible on half the planet.

      A day on the Earth used to be only 18 hours.

      • CC1s121LrBGT says:

        What a great place for a solar powered antenna farm!

        • Nidster says:

          Most theories regarding the Moon fall well short of the most important questions: where did it originate and how did it get into its ‘near perfect’ orbit? But, as with almost everything, humanity still KNOWS virtually nothing. Sorta like the Big Bang theory that postulates the Universe ‘popped’ into existence from nothing.

          And, in closing let me say that even if one KNOWS

          • Art Stone says:

            You are correct – the inertia of the moon is pretty hard to comprehend, then again the world has been here a long time. It was around 600 million years ago that the earth spun every 22 hours. There is no dispute that the spin rate is slowing – that’s directly measurable .

            Because we went to the moon, we know that the Earth and Moon are made of the same “stuff”, unlike Mars (and many meteorites match the “stuff” of Mars. The most plausible theory is the moon is residue from a collision of planets when the solar system was young and the resulting debris field over time aggregated itself into the moon which settled into a stable orbit.

          • Nidster says:

            And, in closing let me say that even if one KNOWS, what good will it do you?

            Many of us remember Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey but do you understand the symbolism embedded through-out the film?

            William ‘Bill’ Cooper, a former intelligence spook turned renegade to the Establishment finally decoded it and you can listen to a mp3 file of his Feb 11, 1993 radio program.

            What does it have to do with the Moon? You’ll just have to listen, at least to the 1st 30 minutes, but be aware it’s pretty deep stuff and not for everyone.

            Oh, you can find the full version of 2001: A Space Odyssey on Vimeo and it’s worth viewing.

          • Art Stone says:

            I saw 2001 in Cinemax at s theater in Downtown Pittsburgh when I was 12. I had read in Popular Science about the making of the scene where he makes a lap of the space station jogging, which took some cleverness.

            I didn’t understand the second half at all. I saw 2010 which made it all a lot clearer. When the comet plowed into Jupiter, I was rooting for a larger event 😉 That event is probably the most amazing thing to happen in my lifetime, and other than geeks, it generated little more than a yawn.

            Just remember 1:4:9

  5. foyle says:

    DST will be one of the first things outlawed if I become world emperor.
    It screws up my sleep cycle every time we switch.

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