For once, the NSA leaker is not breaking left/right Republican/ Democratic
I’ll try to main a list here
Bennett
Imus
Beck
Ingraham
Geraldo
Gallagher
Thom Haetmann
Rush
Huckabee
Prager
Humphries
Ed Schultz
Hannity
Jerry Doyle
Andy Dean - He's a traitor
Hewitt
Levin - Reserving judgment, but glad the info is public
Randi Rhodes
Michael Savage - he's a hero
Red Eye Radio
George Noory
Jon Grayson. - for the most part, Jon doesn't have opinions
I listen to a bit if Hannity yesterday. His take was that he’s looking at this differently than some, that maybe the leaked docs were a good thing. I betcha he talked to Beckle about it. Beckle is furious over the intrusion into our privacy, and we all know he is as dyed-in-the-wool-liberal as they come these days.
“What everybody knows and what nobody wants to come to grips with is we are in the midst of a coup taking place,” talk-show host Rush Limbaugh said Friday afternoon
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/limbaugh-we-are-in-the-midst-of-a-coup/#QVOgsZLKbOTBJh1H.99
Rush also took a late, 3rd hour call from a guy who said, “Rush I wanted to say something, but it’s the kind of thing talked about at midnight, on those conspiracy shows, and I didn’t want to do that here since your show is so straight.” Rush’s reply? “I’m not against a little conspiracy talk, let it rip.”
The most telling thing about the leaked stuff is to read, or hear, the comments coming from Establishment RINO’s. Very telling stuff.
The most insidious and evil aspect of this is that as that as the spying was ramping up under Bush and then Obama, the Federal government was publicly focusing discussing focus on new and tougher privacy laws as a decoy.
More……
alGore blasted the Obama administration with a tweet reading, “In digital era, privacy must be a priority. Is it just me, or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous?”
Bob Beckle quote on Fox News, ““I think it is one of the most outrageous examples of the stepping on the Constitution I’ve heard. They have no right to the phone records. … It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, and it is deplorable. I didn’t like it when they did it during the Bush administration, and I don’t like when they’re doing it now. You talk about fascism? You’re getting damn close to it.”
The ACLU sees the administration as Big Brother and its use of the NSA as even more alarming than the novel “1984.” Michelle Richardson, legislative counsel with the ACLU Washington Legislative Office, called for a full investigation by Congress, saying, “Such extreme secrecy is inconsistent with our democratic values of open government and accountability.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/obama-loses-the-left/#DSukcWU8lzUkb3yx.99
Now if Diane Sawyer, LameStream news anchor, starts running stories and quoting liberals who are justly outraged, then things could get very interesting.
There is a lot more. From the article linked in my above post.
CNN talk-show host Piers Morgan paused in his relentless crusade for stricter gun-control laws to comment, “I’ve had some of the pro-gun lobbyists on here, saying to me, ‘Well, the reason we need to be armed is because of tyranny from our own government,’ and I’ve always laughed at them. I said, ‘Don’t be ridiculous! Your government won’t turn itself on you.
“But, actually, this is vaguely tyrannical behavior by the American government,” Morgan concluded. “I think what the IRS did is bordering on tyrannical behavior. I think what the Department of Justice has done to the AP is bordering on tyrannical behavior.”
There’s more to read in the article.
Whoa, Nellie!!!! Things are getting quite interesting over the NSA/Snowden/Tyranny scandal that has caught the attention of Lefties/Righties, countries like Iceland and now former KGB officials.
“Regarding the fate of Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old NSA whistleblower, (Vladimir) Putin said Moscow could consider granting him political asylum if such a request were made.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/putin-lectures-obama-on-privacy/#0FyIwcQJwzKWjKPl.99
Wonder where Ron Kuby stands on this. 😉 I looked and didn’t see anything, but did find out he had lost a case he argued in front of Sonia Sotomayor. 😉
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-kuby/sotomayor-never-released_b_207669.html
Ponder if Snowden might be a false flag
Everything is a ‘false flag’ event these days. It’s the Plan. Boston Marathon bombing had loads of cops, CIA, FBI, NSA and private security black ops guys stationed all over the place. Homeland Security even advertises for ‘victims’ to be at so-call training events. Security was heard by many at the marathon to be saying, “This is a training exercise.” prior to the bombs going off.
The problem for a certain class of people is that this ‘event’ has gone global. Vladimir Putin has jumped in with both feet. Certainly the Chicoms had a hand in Snowden’s being allowed into Hong Kong.
Hells Bells, there are so many competing factions trying to usurp power from some other faction that even if you had the rehearsal script it would be hard to keep things straight as to ‘who done it’!
Remember the sage advice, “Let your fingers do the walking” ? Well, I used an updated version and let Google do the pondering and the results were truly out of this world. Has anyone been in touch with George Noory ?
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2013/06/is-secret-ufo-message-hidden-in-nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowdens-recent-interview-warning-of-false-flag-alien-invasion-2452812.html
I watched the interview yesterday – I was uncomfortable with it – the reason was the plot twist of the film “Broadcast News” – the use of the “jump cut” to slip in edits. That isn’t quite what they did – there were a couple times you heard a question with Snowden listening to the question – then a cut before Snowden answers.
That could mean the question he answered isn’t the one that was asked or the initial answer was edited out. The Guardian’s politics don’t generally give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Democray Now news cast with interviews at 14, 26, minute marks that are informative. “Is Edward Snowden a Hero? A Debate with Journalist Chris Hedges & Law Scholar Geoffrey Stone? Chris Hedges, a senior fellow at The Nation Institute and former Pulitzer Prize-winning foreign correspondent for The New York Times, and Geoffrey Stone, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School. Stone served as an informal adviser to President Obama in 2008, years after hiring him to teach constitutional law.”
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/12/is_edward_snowden_a_hero_a
For whatever it’s worth the least that comes out of this Snowden-NSA stuff is that some of the Left and some of the Free Press are just as concerned and/or outraged by what is being learned as anyone else. Are they waking up? It’s a wait & see thing. Problem is it will be found to be legal, regardless of the ACLU’s interpretation, because it is all about National Security. I feel safer already.
Meanwhile, a very important immigration reform bill is pending in the senate and soon the house. The Snowden-NSA stuff has been blogged about here well before it started getting news coverage.
People seem surprised that Rand Paul supports loosening the barriers on people working wherever and for whomever they want, That has been a fundamental principle of Libertarians – government interference in the employment relationship creates an inefficient use of capital.
You are right. Press coverage is interesting. Some in the press even call Rand “extreme right wing” when in fact his policies are more centralist – where libertarians differ with conservatives are where they agree with liberals.
For example, most libertarians don’t want laws restricting how much you can rent an apartment, nor do they want laws restricting the size of your cup for sugary drinks. Libertarians tend to think of enforcement as well- who will enforce the new restrictions on freedom, who will pay them do do so, and how will they do it evenhandedly?
Where Rand and his Dad differ on most libertarians is on the abortion issue. All libertarians support freedom and are opposed to taking someone’s life. To most libertarians (from polls I have seen), they don’t consider a fertilized egg to be a full human being with the rights of full human beings. Rand and his Dad believe human life begins at conception and are opposed to abortion, but not in favor of making it illegal.
Picking up again on the thought Art threw out, “Ponder if Snowden might be a false flag?” I ended my reply with this thought, “There are so many competing factions trying to usurp power from some other faction that even if you had the rehearsal script it would be hard to keep things straight as to ‘who done it’!”
So, after a bit more pondering and snooping around I went over to GizaDeathStar, where Dr. Ferrell finally got around to commenting on the whole sordid mess. He agrees with a blog by investigative reporter, Jon Rappoport at NoMoreFakeNews, “Did someone help Ed Snowden punch a hole in the NSA?”.
Bottom-line, Rappoport’s blog suggests a possible scenario behind the reason for this
scandal and how Snowden may have obtained the data ‘leaked’ to the Guardian. First things first: Rappoport weaves in some important background material in order to ‘flesh-out’ the analysis whereby the inter-agency rivalry between the CIA and NSA maybe a possible, or at least a partial answer.
http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/did-someone-help-ed-snowden-punch-a-hole-in-the-nsa/
If the US (in)Justice Department, in going after Bradley Manning and/or James Rosen, is allowed to erect a precedent in law that says any person in the US government who speaks to a journalist, who then reports that as news would be speaking to the public, which by a real twist of logic, the free press would then be considered to be speaking to the enemy.
Who’s the enemy? Have you looked at yourself in the mirror today?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Pogo_-_Earth_Day_1971_poster.jpg
Oh, great! just what freedom loving people of America need, an established precedent in law that equates speaking to the media to be the equivalent to communicating with the enemy, which incidentally carries the death penalty. How many honest journalist are willing to die for reporting the news? Or, in the alternative, qualify for a trip to the local FEMA camp, courtesy of the NDAA law?
That is the key question – to be a “spy”, you have to be working for an enemy. If we are at war with “terror” rather than one of those obsolete “nation states”, who or what is the “enemy” and at what point do you cross the line by providing secrets to this ephemeral boogeyman called “terrorism”?
Historically, the objective of big government advocates was to expand government permanently without regard for cost or meeting objectives.
Fifty years after the War on Poverty began under President Johnson, the war goes on despite INCREASE in poverty rates.
Twenty Five years after the War on Drugs began under President GHW Bush (after the “Just Say No” program failed), we were told that the potency of marijuana has increased and a greater number of Americans have tried illegal drugs, yet the War on Drugs continues.
After the creation of the Education Department by President Carter, national test scores have declined, and US students performance compared to other countries has declined even more as those countries improve… yet the Department of Education expands.
And of course, the War on Terror (aka the War on Evil-Do’ers) started under President Bush has ever expanding budgets yet we are told was unable to follow up on tips provided by the Russian intelligence agency regarding the intent of the Boston Bombers.
The point at which the line is crossed must be by providing guns, ammo ‘n gold to the bogeymen they call terrorist, aka the hoarders, returning military vets and the Militia.
http://www.dailypaul.com/289320/rush-limbaugh-supports-edward-snowden
title says it all
CC, an interesting angle about Snowden spilling the beans on the NSA spying on everyone is to consider that those who did not understand what the NSA was doing are the low-infor’s.
Those who are upset and freakin’ out because the low-infor’s may suspect them to be Traitors are the State Controlled Media, the Dems, RINO’s and Statist’s. Just give the situation a little more time to ferment and low infor’s will believe what they are told to believe.
Tomorrow they’ll be back in the same place they were yesterday, lapping up the vomit. Hells Bells, if Rush is for it, they are against it. Simple as that, really, it’s as simple as that.
So people who rushed in and declared Snowden a hero kind of have a bit of a PR problem. I suppose at the time some people thought the Rosenbergs were heroes.
Its the same reason that the US Post Office had a rule that only dead people can be on stamps… only the can you be reasonably assured that there will be no dramatic surprises.
“All Snowden wants from Ecuador is what we are granting aliens here- amnesty” – Michael Savage , June 25, 2013
Ol Donnie doesn’t have a radio show, but he has a TV show and is a regular guest on radio shows:
http://www.infowars.com/donald-trump-says-snowden-should-be-assassinated
Donnie was running for President for a while, wasn’t he?
Do you think it would cause a fuss if we sent a tomahawk missile into the Moscow Airport terminal?
It might be another singing opportunity for Republican Presidential candidate John McCain…. what’s a Russian word that rhymes with “Barbara Ann”?
Who’s your hero, the guy that created computers that revolutionized the world, or the guy partnered with big government that creates buildings to loot the underclass through gambling?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/26/steve-wozniak-snowden-is-a-hero-because-this-came-from-his-heart.html
Our culture has evolved to the point that it doesn’t want heroes.
Big companies like Goldman Sucks and surely other players benefit from the PRISM surveillance program. Meta-Data as well as minute data between certain companies, i.e. the big players, give the listeners an edge. Understand that Goldman Sucks has increased its staff and presence in Salt Lake City (a stone’s throw from Bluffdale), and it gives them the data feeds milliseconds ahead of everyone else. Their HFT computers are able to front-run the markets, Surely that is a foregone conclusion. Goldman Sucks openly brags about not losing money, quarter after quarter. They are raking in huge amounts of money. But, there is something else going on behind the scene, I betcha the NSA (or certain folks at the NSA) get a cut of the action. In order words, Goldman Sucks is probably trading with the NSA’s info, PRISM, and sweeping money into hidden accounts.
Re-reading the above posts, we assume, rightly so in my opinion, Snowden is a pawn being fed info/documents because he is ultimately directed and fed by entities higher up the food chain. Makes perfect sense. What is being reported in the Biased Media could well be mis-direction.
Another pathway to explore is the large amount of attention being given to the extradition of Snowden, from where ever he is, back into the hands of da ObamaNation, or is that just a Brier Rabbit ploy? You know, “Please, Mr. Fox we really, really want you to send him back to us ’cause we played nice and fair with
you lately and we want you to play nice and fair with us too.
A link from Drudge mostly confirmed a suspicion I had. Several years ago, Connecticut stopped sending out year stickers for license plates – you paid the fee, you got an updated registration but nothing for the license plate . My thinking at the time was this meant there was now a very easy way for police to randomly check license plates for being expired.
The story today discussed how wide spread and pervasive license plate readers are on police vehicles. The police source the reporter talked with was very proud that with their equipment, a typical 8 hour shift would query 1,200 license plates. In addition, there are fixed scanners located on every road in and out of town.
One resident asked to see how many times his plate had been checked and the answer was 122. He (allegedly) was given pictures, including one of his family getting out of his car in his own driveway. “Hey, we can see your can from the street – no expectation of privacy!”
There is one flaw with this system, however. For some not yet known reason, uninsured illegal aliens driving unregistered cars are invisible to this system.
I believe it is illegal to ask for legal status when registering a car…. or getting a driver’s license…. it certainly is when registering to vote or voting itself. The non-English speaker simply had to sign then name by the X indicating they are eligible to vote.
Liberals actually think that government’s intentions are good. I see their intentions to keep a steady stream of needy immigrants coming sot hat the government unionized side of the welfare state can protect their jobs and grow their union base.
“Reset the Net”
Tech companies, diverse organizations, thousands of individuals announce plan to ‘Reset the Net’ on anniversary of first Snowden surveillance story
Popular companies and sites including reddit, imgur, DuckDuckGo, CREDO Mobile, and BoingBoing stand with diverse coalition of organizations, plan to announce security improvements while thousands of Internet users oppose mass surveillance by adopting encryption technology”
for more:
http://www.lp.org/reset-the-net-on-anniversary-of-first-snowden-surveillance-story