The predictable has happened as Democrats wake up:
- The shooter had no criminal record
- He used 10 rifles at long distance, not handguns
- He did not use a silencer
- Automatic weapons are already tightly controlled
How did he get 10 rifles into a hotel room undetected?
What happens in Vegas doesn’t stay in Vegas.
NBC? (Nothing but Communists)
I listened to the clip of the shootings. That is a Grade-A , Federal Firearms Class III license required, fully automatic weapon being fired. I don’t know of anything else the terrorist had in his room but he had an automatic weapon aka machine gun.
The interesting part is that he did so much carnage with an automatic weapon. They are notoriously difficult to hold on any target. I suspect this was not a piece of junk that he was firing, but a modern high-tech weapon.
ISIS has already claimed responsibility – figure that one out. I suspect they are feeling a bit “puny” these days as we are killing so many of them.
in this case, the targets were 32 stories down and out in the open. shooting fish in a barrel…
It’s not so easy to discern the ‘report’ of an auto-sear from a well engineered bump stock… those can fire at nearly the same rate, especially by adding slightly stiffer springs. Moreover, these newer ‘slide’ stocks actually make it easier to stay on target.
This took some planning. How long did he have the hotel room?
He checked in on the 28th using his girlfriend’s ID. She is 62 years old and had worked as a hostess in the high roller part of a casino. She was divorced a few years ago.
He broke out two windows with views on different sides of the end of the building facing the empty lot where the concert was help. I don’t know if it is only a theory or a fact that he got the guns in the room using suitcases.
Law enforcement sources indicate he had 13 suitcases in the room – nothing suspicious about that!
It’s surprising he was allowed to check-in using his girlfriend’s ID. She was not with him, and went to the Philippines, where he wired $100k.
One could easily avoid scrutiny by toting 1 or 2 suitcases at a time over the course of two days.
Clearly he was familiar with routines at the casino and likely had VIP privileges. Mandalay Bay may have comped him that corner room!
One story mentioned he was in the highest tier of big rollers, so your speculation is probably correct.
I had the same reaction about ISIS – but his girlfriend (or whatever) is from the Phillipines, which has had decades of difficulty with Islamic terrorists, and currently is run by a crazy man
“A modified bump stock rifle was also found, which allows a gun to simulate rapid automatic gunfire. Law enforcement officials are still in the process of examining firearms to determine if they were capable of firing automatically.”
http://abcnews.go.com/US/19-weapons-found-las-vegas-shooters-room-sources/story?id=50228093
https://youtu.be/_U6tORrODJE
More details
https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-bump-fire-device-ar-15/
BATF declared the device legal during the 1st Obama administration
You knew this was coming – they deserved to be shot because they are probably Republicans
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-cbs-fires-executive-for-deeply-1506969657-htmlstory.html
“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing. I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters.”
That is an astounding statement on so many levels. Ignoring the emotional perspective and the humanity perspectives, let’s just look at the cold hard science.
The mass murderer was an intelligent person. A career in accounting, he became a millionaire despite having a bank-robber father, and he planned out the massacre.
There is no doubt in my mind that if there were no guns in the United States, not even one, he would have found a way to kill and injure many people. A truck bomb like Oklahoma City, driving into a crowded street of pedestrians, or a pressure cooker loaded with nails are all recent examples.
If this lawyer for CBS really cared about children, she would look at all the children killed in the streets of Chicago just this year and last. Hint – it is more than were killed in Las Vegas.
And she is a lawyer…
It would be interesting to compile a list of people who liked her comment
“Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21.”
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““If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”
above quotes from:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/
“Can cause paranoid or suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination. Combining with other substances, particularly alcohol, can slow breathing and possibly lead to death.”
This is a good week to be someone that does not watch television, Fred. I had to see an idiot on CNN advocating his solution for preventing this from occurring – he wants hotels to be required to search the luggage or all their guests. I felt like shouting at the TV – be sure you have all guests remove their shoes so you can check them too!
It is that mindset in government that causes more and more reductions in freedom each year.
How about havng police dogs search every room every day…?
These articles from last month seem to be virtually forgotten in recent coverage of Las Vegas events. At the time, authorities were looking for a bomb as a bomb has been used in Manchester where guns are harder to obtain than Las Vegas.
From August 25, 2017: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anti-terror-cops-put-ring-11050209
ByMartin Fricker
02:57, 25 AUG 2017 Updated09:31, 25 AUG 2017
“Counter-terror police have stepped up patrols in Las Vegas… Nevada authorities are on high alert amid fears of a lone-wolf… attack on the city’s famed Strip….Security was increased in May after an ISIS propaganda video emerged featuring images of iconic Vegas hotels and casinos.”
from: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/640033/isis-terror-threat-mcgregor-mayweather-fight-police-security
“ANTI-TERROR cops are on high alert for the Conor McGregor-Floyd Mayweather fight over fears of an ISIS massacre.”
By Joshua Nevett / Published 25th August 2017
“Authorities fear ISIS-inspired terrorists may carry out a[n] … attack on the city’s iconic strip of hotels and casinos.”
My local firearms establishment does not have those ‘bump-stocks for sale. Those are crap products. How naive I am , I haven’t even seen one.
Whole thing is strange. The blacks ops team killed paddock left the room before the swat team blew off the door. They killed the patsy before the swat team got there.
That guy couldn’t have shot that many times changing magazines and rifles between the windows. BS.
One bullet magically roams around in JFK limousine in Dallas fired by a guy with a bolt action rifle to a moving target. yeah right , wink.
400 yards, I have looked through a scope at 400 yards. Thats a long ways and you have to be very patient with a smooth trigger to hit something at 400 yards.
I have not hit anything that far away.
5.56 ( .223) is dropping pretty fast at 400 , you would have to aim up just a bit.
Now a .308 rifle that will get to 400 yards with plenty of energy.
That jackass had help. ‘Fast & Furious’ ‘Atf’ project to save their job or something
That’s a bad situation out there. Something is afoot.
parrott
Most amazing to me was that within a few short hours, the FBI had declared that there was no ISIS collaboration, yet nearly a year and a half has past since the Republican Convention and they are not sure about whether Putin and Trump collaborated.
Colluded.
Everywhere you look…. antitrust too.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/06/youtuber-demonetized-just-hours-rush-limbaugh-mention/
I agree ‘ CC’.
Anyone listening to ‘Guntalk’ ( Tom Gresham ) today . He had Steve Scalise on today. Excellent interview. I think that Steve believes Nancy Pelocie has dementia ( Ha Ha ) ! I agree !
She’s a nut case. He speaks very clearly.
I don’t think the multiple shooter thing is from taxi cab or third floor window. Tom didn’t either,
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CC, your point is well taken on the FBI statement on Isis being involved. James Wesley Rawles just said the very same thing on Alex Jones just now.
maybe its because they knew it was MS-13 or the Loco-Polos,
parrott
So a week has gone by and the FBI is now asking the public for input on possible motives… seems more like a poll to see which ‘script’ will best satisfy the public.
I’m going to call it as I see it: Illuminati ritual sacrifice. I have no idea whether he acted alone (manipulated/altered state), had an accomplice or handler, or was a patsy, as the ‘facts’ have been changing daily from LV LEO, FBI officials, the Media, etc.
There are several notable peculiarities. The ‘shooter’ was on the 32nd floor (i.e. 32nd degree); room number was 1-3-5. Various sources quote 23 weapons in his room (32 reversed). The killing actually took place in front of the Luxor; the stage/crowd was aligned with the Luxor pyramid, Sphinx, and oblisk. Event was the ‘Harvest Festival’, the performer (Aldean) was the ‘final act’. Paddock acquired 33 weapons in the preceding 11 months… lots of numbers and symbolism with occult significance.
You maybe onto something Chairman. I saw a report, there was supposedly some bunch of crazy girls going around and telling people in the area right in front of the stage before the music started, saying: ” you people are going to die.” “you all are going to die tonight.” supposedly freaked out some of the people there, but they put it aside and watched the concert. I think it was on CBS way back on monday morning ? Or Rush and Alex talked about it and played the youtube sound.
FEMA was advertising for actors the week before for trauma people. I heard that today on the Dr Ted Broer show. He said he would like to see the bullet marks in the concrete area where the victims were. Waiting on the FBI three D model to show supposedly where the bulletts came from.
they havn’t shown anything on TV news ( I figured it would be just we need gun control) and it has.
parrott
Important details are changing
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html
Holy Cow, Fred you found smoking gun! No sh!t, it makes sense. so that security guy was there at 10pm and the Hut Hut Hut swat team didn’t breach the door of the room till after 11 ? That’s bad, How come security guy didn’t use a walkee talkee to call this in ? Or hotel security is this inept?
Here is the narrative that probably happened, saw it in comments section.
,,,” ole paddock probably was just at the wrong place at the wrong time . He was just the schmuck who happened to have the room that night. According to witnesses, he was downstairs gambling RIGHT BEFORE THE INCIDENT. Then he decided to return to his room, where he found a team of gunmen who had set up in his absence. That team included the security guard, who acted as a lookout. Bear in mind that all the cameras on the floor were disabled and “Paddock” came up a dumbwaiter basically. They murdered Paddock, did the shooting, and snuck out the way they came in, leaving Jesus Campos ( the hotel security guy) as the only witness. It’s also noteworthy that the couple warning the crowd about the impending shooting were, like Campos, Hispanic. The only flaw in my narrative that I can think of is that the death photos of Paddock that his earlobes were “free,” while the living photos of him show that his earlobes were attached. ”
Now that isn’t to hard to believe.
Killer
parrott
That was no interview, Ellen laid out the corporate story line and Jesus Julio Iglacious Campost just agreed and shook his head. Nothing to see here , keep moving along.
He didn’t want no money for his interview, he just loves Ellen and she has more credibility than say Lou Dobbs or John Stossel even sixty minutes? Oh yeah, especially since she starts her show out with disco party music at the beginning to rev up the in studio sheeple & add credibility.
No more press conferences by the sheriffs department. Just seal the documents and move along, re-elect 84 year old CA senator Feinstein.
Same ole same ole, follows same mantra as so many other incidents, ‘Waco’, TWA Flight 800, MK ultra guy in Colorado that shot up the Movie theater, and now Mandalay Bay.
annoyed.
parrott
The official story doesn’t pass the smell test. Speculation is that the shooter may have been a government informant that snapped as a result of being mistreated or set up as a fall guy by the real shooter that got away. Who knows? Lots of money to be made writing books about it. Sad.
You know, Mrs Parrott and I was going to drive through Las Vegas ( on our bucket list) when we hit the Grand Canyon. That was where we were going to stay, ‘Mandalay Bay’ . Kenny Chesney recommended them.
At lease we made it to Key West before the hurricane destroyed it.
Like to get one of those Hemingway polydactyl cats.
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Parrott: A tip when you visit the Grand Canyon; while the main entrance is the ‘classic’ view, it is now very crowded and not really enjoyable (IMHO). You’ll find better views and less crowding about 25 miles east at Desert View and the ‘Watchtower’, where the vista features a good view of the river, the Painted Desert, and mountains of Flagstaff.
The Grand Canyon is getting so crowded that nobody goes there anymore
After an expensive vacation you could be more than a grand in the hole.
The NPS wants to raise the entry fee to $70 per car… that should thin the herd.
Democrats will hand out free car passes at election time
Cool, Thanks Chairman,