Crossing the Red Line

With all this “investigation” going on, it’s time for war!

It’s official – President Obama is going to decree that President Assad of Syria has used chemical weapons in the Gulf of Tonkin, which means the US has no alternative now but to liberate Syria by boming the existing government into rubble and murdering its leader.

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33 Responses to Crossing the Red Line

  1. Nidster says:

    Is he for real? Does he want Putin to become really angry? Or, is it yet another distraction to obfuscate the pending debate over immigration legislation?

  2. CC1s121LrBGT says:

    from: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-13/us-propose-no-fly-zone-over-syria-concludes-use-chemical-weapons-against-rebels

    “Watch John McCain and Lindsey Graham pat themselves on the back for just escalating Europe’s crusade to get a Qatar natgas pipeline through a US-friendly Syria regime live on C-Span, at the expense of countless lives as mere “collateral damage.””

    • Art Stone says:

      Presumably “fracking” works anywhere and Iraq would benefit greatly from “safe” pipelines to the Mediterranean that don’t have to pay Russia or one of its friends. Then again, what oil producer really wants to lower oil prices?

      The “red line in the sand” was pointed out by France – Lebanon was essentially a French Catholic outpost built during the Crusades. A frequent mistake people make are assuming that all Arabs are Muslim. Beirut is one of the friction points where Christianity and Islam live side by side. Nigeria is another.

  3. Parrott says:

    To quote a famous senator from Arizona, who had is pic made with terrorist:
    ” We have to help ‘my friends’ in Syria.”
    I am so done with washington. They are joining the wrong side. AT least Bashar al-Assad protected the Christians and didn’t let those wild gay-ass muzzies run roughshod and kill all the Christians like they are doing now !
    Here is the action from Obo to move focus from his scandals. hate
    parrott

  4. Art Stone says:

    It just gets worse – here is the quote from Bloomberg news

    “The decision to arm the opposition was prompted by rebel losses rather than by U.S. confirmation, announced yesterday, that Assad’s forces had used chemical weapons, according to the official familiar with the move. Whether to provide heavier weapons is still being debated amid concerns that such material could fall into terrorist hands, the official said”

    So it’s a lie – I’m shocked!

  5. lasong says:

    Where is the proof? I understand the rebels used it also and pleged thier alligence to Al Quida. Maybe it’s just a plot to take away news coverage from the unfolding scandels, it worked for Clinton and bush.

    • CC1s121LrBGT says:

      It worked for President Johnson too. If it doesn’t work for President Obama, then he should fall back on President Bush’s Plan B and relaunch a program to send Americans to the moon.

    • Art Stone says:

      Even if it was true, why do we have any obligation to get involved?

      • Nidster says:

        Well, if you were to ask around certain venues, one would learn, or at least be told, that POTUS is being led around the paddock by the Israelis. ‘Course that’s just a rumor, no real intell that I could point you to in order for you to go see and check it out for yourself.

        Poor little ole POTUS, the guy is so trusting of his friends that sometimes one could actually believe his ‘friends’ have been taking advantage of his naiveté. Surely to goodness, once he reads in the newspapers how badly his ‘friends’ have abused his trusting nature then he might go and get a bit mad, as in psychotic.

        • Art Stone says:

          I really think we’re going to find blackmail at the root of this, and that is not a reference to his genetics or skin color. His whole life story is just incredibly sketchy.

          The fact we’re directly confronting Russia tends to argue against the notion his birth was the result of a deliberate KGB plan to breed a generation of future fellow travelers, but I think it is the state department and Goldman Sachs that are steering the ship of state

        • Art Stone says:

          I collect conspiracies as a hobby – it’s hard not to listening to radio. The one part of that particular theory (which has some pretty solid clues) is how can it possibly be in the interest of Israel to be surrounded by countries controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood? Lesser of two evils?

      • CC1s121LrBGT says:

        You have to spend the stoke the public-private partnership by “investing” the tax money into the private side in order to get campaign contributions for re-election…. follow the money.

  6. Nidster says:

    Digging through some downloaded vids I found an interesting one from PressTV. , According to Jihad Maqdisi, the Syrian Foreign Ministry spokesman, on 23/07/2012 gave assurances that under no circumstances would Syria use WMD or unconventional weapons, except in the event of foreign intervention. Well, I guess that settles the question with regard to the fact Assad’s forces do have WMD or unconventional weapons. So, will he use them?

    Google this “Dr Makdisi Press conference _Chemical Weapon Won’t Be Used Unless in Case of External Aggression” and go to about the 2.15 mark where he begins speaking English. By the way, I do not know why the spelling of the spokesman is spelled 2 different ways.

  7. Nidster says:

    BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!

    This email message was just intercepted from the White House. It was addressed to Vladimir Putin and the body of the message said, “Sorry for the inconvenience you experienced Mr. Putin. POTUS is too busy scheduling his next golf game and fund raising event to reply to your inquiry.”

    This NSA stuff might not be all that bad.

    • Art Stone says:

      The next chapter is leaked documents of how MI6 in England was intercepting phone calls, installing key loggers, running fake Internet cafes to read emails, and tracking in real time on a display board – of the delegates and staff of the countries who attended the G20 summit in London in 2009, and then relaying that information to the negotiators in real time. Most of the English folks posting on the article don’t understand why this “intelligence” gathering is problematic. I’m so glad we broke away from England, and I don’t for the life of me understand why some people are fascinated with the “royal family”

      http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/06/17/snowden-reveals-america-and-britain-spied-on-g20-members/

  8. Nidster says:

    Very nice find. Of particular interest is the observation that “…the Anglo-American intelligence sharing alliance on other countries EXCLUDES South Africa…”

    Wonder what other countries may be on the ‘exclusion’ list…….let’s spell things out for clarity’s sake: Brazil-Russia-India-China-SouthAfrica, and you get, BRICSA.

    My, my, my what have we here? Nations that appear to have joined an allegiance to supplant the FRN as the world’s Reserve Currency.

    And, all along we thought it would be safe to settle in New Zealand or Australia, beautiful countries by the way.

    • Art Stone says:

      I think I read essentially the same story in the Guardian. Apparently Americans and their media don’t care about *boring* things like G20 summits and harmonization of government accounting processes.

      I don’t know about you, but if I was playing poker and found out the house had a camera looking at my cards, and telling the other players what cards I have, I wouldn’t play there any more. If they’re doing this, they have to be doing the same thing in colluding to set the LIBOR rates.

      A lot of their focus seemed to be on Turkey, which has lots of sharp edges. Turkey is part of NATO but not the EU (yet) and has one of the most viable economies for an Islamic country that doesn’t derive it’s wealth from oil.

      The economist had a blurb about France and Germany starting to align – Germany will pretend to be weak, and France will pretend to be strong. This sounds like it could turn out well.

      • Nidster says:

        Totally agree with your take and sources until we get to the last paragraph about France and Germany starting to ‘align’. Although I now see your concluding sentence is sarcasm.

        The Economist is a Brit publication. If I remember correctly, the City of Loudon holds the gold reserves for the Empire, which also includes the reserves of many other nations as well. A peculiar thing is the metal, gold. Monoatomic gold was consumed by Pharaoh’s down through the ages, which was baked into cakes made from ground wheat, the ancient Einkorn wheat.

        Historically speaking, France and Germany mix together about as well as oil and water. Hells Bells, never forget the strife between Rome and the Germanic people.

        Some folks believe Germany is playing a game nowadays. Appearing to be the westernized nation it is, and only going along with the flow of the US politicians for the time being.

        Never ever forget the rise of the National Socialist Workers Party in Germany, or the history of how it arose, or the distinct fact they never surrendered and never disbanded the political party after WWII, or the tens of thousands of SS officers who fled Germany prior to its defeat via the ‘Rat’ lines, or the tens of thousands of scientists who were absorbed into Russia, Britain and America.

  9. Art Stone says:

    President Obama: “I am not Dick Cheney and Syria is not Iraq”

    • CC1s121LrBGT says:

      “Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was
      Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was ”

      “You may tell yourself, this is not my beautiful house”

  10. Nidster says:

    As CC alludes to in his post above, any Nazi’s who made it out of Germany would be some real old codgers by now and are undoubtedly long gone. That said, I don’t think they were either celibate or slackers. An important consideration to keep in the forefront is that Nazism is not a political movement, it is a belief system that is occultism, a.k.a. hidden secrets. The swastika is a symbol of far eastern religions. The Nazi’s made it a very powerful symbol, one rooted in, of all things, physics.

    Not all Nazi’s surrendered, or were killed, or were tried at Nuremburg.

    We should go beyond the classroom education we were taught and learn the ‘rest of the story’. The classic explanations are just wrong and were never accepted by the Argentine locals of Rio Negro province, who maintain, to this day, and over all opposition, that the high Nazi leadership did indeed live there for a number of years after the war.

    Google Earth search for San Carlos de Bariloche, in Rio Negro province of Argentina. Locate Huemul Island (“Isla Huemul”) in Nahuel Huapi Lake, northwest of San Carlos de Bariloche. There are photos of the ruins of the complex used to conduct fusion research by Dr. Ronald Richer. It is within 100 miles of Estancia, the “Ranch”, a 10,000 square mile area. One of the largest postwar Nazi compounds, and most likely one of the hangouts of Martin Bormann.

    Postwar Nazi’s maintain close contact with the world of radical Islamicism that they had cultivated prior to and during WWII. Debka reported in January 2012 that Argentine intelligence and counterintelligence authorities were successful in shutting down a Hezbollah cell. Where you ask? You guessed it, the cell was in San Carlos de Bariloche, Rio Negro province of Argentina.

    Two excellent researchers in this field, who provide footnotes, are Dr. Joesph P. Ferrell and Peter Lavenda.

  11. Nidster says:

    Yep!!! stories like this rear their ugly head now and again. Karkoc, is now 94 yrs old and is unlikely to be brought to justice before he dies, that is, if he has enough money to keep the suits working in his defense. Sure, he could have been an SS officer guilty as-charged but still not part of the ‘core’ high Nazi officials, such as Martin Bormann, Dr. Ronald Richer, Dr. Wernher Von Braun and others like them. Those were a few of the elite, top-echelon types that had gobs of looted gold, cash, works of art and even more importantly they had ‘sway’ with international Banksters and President Juan Peron, who could keep them safely hidden in “Little Germany’ aka San Carlos de Bariloche.

    Dr. Richer caused quite an uproar in the day with his experiments with fusion. Documents unsealed after the Berlin wall was torn down shed a lot of light on Nazi secret projects ongoing during WWII. Polish physicist, Igor Witkowski scoured through those docs and unearthed an enigmatic, super-secret, advanced technology that was called Project Chronos, and later dubbed the ‘Nazi Bell’.

    He found the abandoned site in Poland where the project was carried out and his researched unearthed, literally, a fascinating hidden episode of history, that appears to link into stuff that Tesla may have tinkered with in the ‘old’ days.

    Project Camelot has a video interview of Witkowski here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZbW9RZEGsg

    My research led to Dr. Joseph P. Ferrell and his fantastic research. The best audio interviews are on George Anne Hughes site, TheByteShow.

    OK, have some fun…………

  12. CC1s121LrBGT says:

    Just as Syria was threatened, then Hong Kong threatened, word is that Moscow is being threatened

    http://www.zerohedge.com/node/475660

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